Carlisle CC: the classic combination torch for goblets and stemware
Carlisle CC · Bench torch · Surface mix
The Carlisle CC is a combination bench torch — a premix center fire surrounded by a surface-mix outer flame — and one of the oldest production designs in American lampworking, long favored for goblets, stemware, and detailed soft-glass and boro work.
Specs
- Mix type
- Surface mix
- Mount
- Bench
- Oxygen
- —
- Fuel
- Propane, Natural gas
- Skill level
- Intermediate
- Glass
- Soft, Boro
- Best for
- Goblets, Stemware, Detail, Soft glass
- Price
- Mid ($$) $$
Overview
The Carlisle CC is a genuine classic — one of the oldest production torch designs in American lampworking, and the model that built Carlisle’s reputation. It’s a combination torch: a premix center fire surrounded by a surface-mix outer flame. The premix center runs hot and detailed; the surface-mix outer is bushier and good for soaking heat into a larger area. Having both in one burner is the whole point, and it made the CC a long-time workhorse for goblets, stemware, and detail work in both soft glass and boro.
The combination flame
Most torches are one thing or the other. The CC is both. The premix center mixes fuel and oxygen inside the torch for a hot, focused flame you can use to articulate a stem or a detail; the surface-mix outer mixes at the face for a broad, soaking flame that keeps a bowl or foot evenly warm. Few single torches cover that range as naturally. To understand the two halves, see surface mix vs premix torches and soaking vs penetrating flame.
Who it’s for
The CC suits intermediate makers doing detailed soft-glass and boro work — and goblet and stemware artists in particular have long appreciated what its mixed flame can do. It isn’t usually a first torch: the premix center asks the operator to understand and respect a combination design, especially at startup and shutdown. New lampworkers more often start on the gentler Mini CC and step up once their routine is second nature.
Living with a combination design
The CC has a well-known quirk: it can be loud, and it’s prone to a backfire ‘pop’ if shut down out of sequence. That’s a characteristic of the design rather than a fault — it simply means the CC rewards a careful, consistent startup and shutdown routine, and it can intimidate newer users until that routine is automatic. The pure surface-mix members of the family are calmer here, which is part of why they make easier first torches.
Glass, fuel & oxygen
The CC handles soft (soda-lime) glass and boro, and burns propane or natural gas with oxygen. Carlisle doesn’t publish the CC’s jet count, stage count, or exact oxygen flow in our source data, so we won’t put numbers on it — confirm those with Carlisle and match them to your oxygen supply before buying. For sizing your system, see how many LPM does my torch need.
Where it sits in the Carlisle lineup
The CC is the heart of the family. Below it, the surface-mix Mini CC is the gentle beginner’s torch; above it, the CC+ and CC++ add outer rows for more heat, and the larger surface-mix Wildcat moves into heavier boro and production. The CC itself is the model the brand’s goblet-and-stemware reputation was built on.
Before you buy
Budget for the whole system, not just the torch: oxygen (a concentrator or tanks), the correct propane or natural-gas regulator, flashback arrestors on both lines, didymium eyewear, and ventilation. New to plumbing a torch? Start with the fittings, hoses & connectors guide and the glass torch safety setup guide.
Editor’s note: spec details reflect Carlisle’s own materials. Carlisle doesn’t publish the CC’s exact jet count, oxygen flow, or current pricing in our source data, so confirm those specifics with Carlisle before purchasing.
Best for: Intermediate makers doing detailed soft-glass and boro work, especially goblet and stemware artists who want a focused premix center plus a broad, soaking outer flame in one torch.
Not for: Absolute beginners (the combination design rewards a careful, consistent startup/shutdown routine), and makers who want the calmest possible flame or a single-fire surface-mix burner.
Pros
- + Combination flame: a hot, detailed premix center plus a bushy, soaking surface-mix outer
- + Genuinely versatile — articulate a stem with the center, keep a bowl warm with the outer
- + The model that built Carlisle's reputation for goblets and stemware
- + Robust, decades-proven production design
- + Burns propane or natural gas
Cons
- − Loud, and prone to a backfire 'pop' if shut down out of sequence
- − Rewards a careful, consistent startup/shutdown routine — can intimidate newer users
- − Older design lineage; feels different from modern surface-mix burners
- − Jets, stages, oxygen flow, and MSRP aren't published — confirm with Carlisle
Flame notes
Combination torch: premix center fire (hot, detailed) plus a surface-mix outer (bushy, soaking). One of the oldest production designs; robust, but loud and prone to a backfire 'pop' if shut down out of sequence.
Maker
Carlisle Machine Works
USA
Focus: Soft, Boro, Beads
CC and Mini CC surface-mix torches; Mini CC beloved as a forgiving beginner/soft-glass torch.
Related reading
FAQ
- What does 'combination torch' mean on the Carlisle CC?
- The CC pairs two flame types in one burner: a premix center fire (fuel and oxygen mixed inside, giving a hot, detailed flame) surrounded by a surface-mix outer (mixed at the face, giving a bushier, soaking flame). Having both is the whole idea — and it's why the CC suits work that needs both fine detail and broad, even heat.
- Why does the CC pop or backfire?
- Because the center is premixed, the CC can be loud and is prone to a backfire 'pop' if it's shut down out of sequence. That's a characteristic of the design, not a defect — it rewards a careful, consistent startup and shutdown routine. The pure surface-mix Mini CC is calmer on this front.
- Is the Carlisle CC good for beginners?
- It's usually pitched at intermediate makers. The combination design asks the operator to understand and respect the premix center, particularly at startup and shutdown. Most beginners start on something calmer — like the surface-mix Mini CC — and come to the CC once their routine is second nature.
- Soft glass or boro?
- Both. The CC earned its following among goblet and stemware artists working soft glass, but it handles boro detail work too.
- How much oxygen does the CC need?
- Carlisle doesn't publish exact oxygen flow for the CC in our source data, so we won't invent a number. Confirm the figures with Carlisle and match them to your oxygen supply before buying.