Carlisle CC++: the largest burner in the CC family
Carlisle CC++ · Bench torch · Hybrid (premix centre fire in a surface-mix outer)
The Carlisle CC++ is the biggest burner in the CC family, a combination torch (premixed center fire plus surface-mixed outer) like the CC+, with an additional outer row for more heat, four color-coded metering valves, and a stainless heat shield standard.
Specs
- Mix type
- Hybrid (premix centre fire in a surface-mix outer)
- Mount
- Bench
- Oxygen (estimate)
- ~33 LPM
- Fuel
- Propane, Natural gas, Hydrogen
- Skill level
- Advanced
- Glass
- Soft, Boro
- Best for
- Production, Large work, General
- Price
- ~$4,286 (reference)
- Stages
- 2
Documented estimate
Treat the oxygen figure as a rough sizing estimate, not a specification. Depending on the model it may be manufacturer full-flame consumption, a converted flow figure, or a documented estimate, and delivered pressure and purity matter as much as flow. What actually drives a torch choice is the glass, the work, and the flame, so size your oxygen supply after you pick the torch. Prices may be manufacturer list prices or observed dealer references. Use the evidence label and sources below, then confirm the exact configuration before buying.
Overview
The Carlisle CC++ is the largest burner in the CC family, the combination torch turned up to its highest output. Like the CC+, it’s a combination design: a premixed center fire surrounded by a surface-mixed outer, but with an additional outer row for more heat. It comes with four color-coded metering valves and a stainless heat shield as standard.
The combination flame, scaled up
The CC++ does what the rest of the family does, a hot, detailed premix center plus a bushy, soaking surface-mix outer, just with more reach. The extra outer row over the CC+ gives it the most heat in the family, which is what makes it a production and larger-work burner. To understand how the two flame types differ, see surface mix vs premix torches and soaking vs penetrating flame.
Control and plumbing
The CC++ has four color-coded metering valves, and Carlisle offers it two ways: with standard 2-hose plumbing, or with 4 separate inlets so each valve can be fed independently, the configuration you’d want for foot-controller setups. A stainless heat shield is standard, fitting for a burner running this hot.
Who it’s for
This is an advanced torch for makers doing production and larger work who want the CC family’s combination flame at its highest output. As the biggest and most demanding member of the family, it rewards an experienced hand and the same careful, consistent startup/shutdown routine the combination design calls for. It isn’t a first torch, beginners should start on the gentler surface-mix Mini CC; if you’re mapping the range, see how to choose a glass torch.
Glass, fuel & oxygen
The CC++ handles soft (soda-lime) glass and boro, and burns propane, natural gas, or hydrogen. Carlisle doesn’t publish the CC++‘s jet count or exact oxygen flow in our source data, and as the largest CC-family burner, it will have a substantial oxygen appetite, so plan accordingly and confirm the figures with Carlisle before buying. For sizing your system, see how many LPM does my torch need.
Where it sits in the Carlisle lineup
The CC++ tops the CC family. Below it, the CC+ has one fewer outer row, the CC is the original combination torch, and the Mini CC is the beginner surface-mix entry point. If the CC+ still isn’t enough flame, the CC++ is where the family ends.
Before you buy
Budget for the whole system, not just the torch: oxygen (a concentrator or tanks, at this size, the supply is the real constraint), the correct propane, natural-gas, or hydrogen regulator, flashback protection matched to your torch and gas supply, didymium or boro-rated eyewear matched to your glass, and ventilation. New to plumbing a torch? Start with the fittings, hoses & connectors guide and the glass torch safety setup guide.
Editor’s note: spec details reflect Carlisle’s own materials. Carlisle doesn’t publish the CC++‘s exact jet count, oxygen flow, or current pricing in our source data, so confirm those specifics with Carlisle before purchasing.
Fit and tradeoffs
Best for: Advanced makers doing production and larger work who want the CC family's combination flame at its highest output, with four-valve control and the option of foot-controller plumbing.
Not for: Beginners and detail-only workers, this is the largest, most demanding member of the family, and the combination design rewards an experienced hand.
Pros
- + Largest CC-family flame: combination design with an extra outer row for more heat
- + Premixed center fire plus surface-mixed outer, like the CC+
- + Four color-coded metering valves; 2-hose standard or 4 separate inlets for foot controllers
- + Stainless heat shield standard
- + Burns propane, natural gas, or hydrogen
Cons
- − Combination design rewards a careful, consistent startup/shutdown routine
- − Largest and most demanding member of the family, an advanced torch
- − Pro price band
- − Jets, oxygen flow, and MSRP aren't published, confirm with Carlisle
Flame notes
Largest burner in the CC family. Combination torch (premixed centerfire + surface-mixed outer) like the CC+, with an additional outer row for more heat. Four color-coded metering valves (2-hose standard, or 4 separate inlets for foot controllers); stainless heat shield standard. Manual: four rows of outer-fire porting (the CC has two, the CC+ three); shares CC-family centerfire tips and recommended pressures, with no separate published flow table.
Maker
Carlisle Machine Works
USA · Founded 1918
Focus: Soft, Boro, Beads
Family-owned Millville, New Jersey manufacturer. Its current glassworking line includes combination, surface-mix, bench, and hand torches. Carlisle says the CC was developed with Corning in 1939.
Related reading
Compared with
Head-to-head guides that put the CC++ against other torches.
FAQ
- How is the CC++ different from the CC+?
- The CC++ is the largest burner in the CC family. It keeps the CC+'s combination design, a premixed centerfire plus a surface-mixed outer, and adds an additional outer row for more heat. It has four color-coded metering valves and a stainless heat shield as standard.
- Can the CC++ be run with foot controllers?
- Yes. Carlisle offers it with the standard 2-hose plumbing, or with 4 separate inlets so each valve can be fed independently, which is what you'd want for foot-controller setups.
- What fuels does the CC++ run?
- Propane, natural gas, or hydrogen.
- Is the CC++ good for beginners?
- No, it's the largest and most demanding burner in the CC family, with a combination design that rewards an experienced hand. Beginners should start on Carlisle's surface-mix Mini CC.
- How much oxygen does the CC++ need?
- Carlisle doesn't publish exact oxygen flow for the CC++ in our source data. Given that it's the largest CC-family burner, expect a substantial appetite, confirm the figures with Carlisle and plan your oxygen supply accordingly before buying.